I'd be willing ...and I am willing, but the radio is now off & though I listened to their conversation, I can look around and am unable to find anyone to discuss this further with, so instead of talking to myself, I'm going to write down my thoughts the best I can. Most of you would call that reasoning.

For those of you who don't believe in God, I'd be willing to have that conversation ...but, it's not this one.

For those of you who believe in God, but don't believe Jesus is One and the same (with our Heavenly Father & the Holy Spirit ---most commonly referred to as the Trinity), I'd be willing to have that conversation ...but, it's not this one. 

Many of us are familiar with the language of Jesus suffering and His death on the cross ...and we read in the Bible of how He fulfilled the hope of the coming Savior.  

Yes, many of the people had different degrees of hope ...and they visualized in slightly different ways (and some not so slight) how they perceived what they were being saved from.  But, having read the various testimonies of the Bible, most of us consider salvation as being saved from our sins ...which in a matter of speaking it does not seem that we are saved from the effects of the very sins that continue to drag us down, so it would be more accurate to say we are saved from the consequences of our sins.

Yet, we often feel there are many consequences of sin that we are not spared from, and which continue to drag us down ...so, more accurately, we can say the judgment.  And yes, that would be Final Judgment ...our hope being that we'd be judged worthy of going to Heaven.  And this conversation would not even make sense unless there was another option. 

And yes, since none of us are worthy ...we gratefully (hopefully) acknowledge Jesus (who is worthy), as our Savior.